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how can the nra in pos really convincingly regulations aimed at keeping people like criminals and drug addict from acquiring guns? there's nothing that has tried to support people like that the nra is the only one that says don't make new gun control measures, and forceful law that we have against criminals and that should be something we can agree on. >> host: part of what is needed to enforce those are maybe stronger definitions sometimes were stronger regulations but the list of prohibited purchasers from 1968 says drug users promises to our that -- drug addict but it doesn't define how you treat that. if anyone would ever used drugs in this company as a prohibited purchaser had a lot less guns available. the mentally ill is the major one. >> guest: that is a similar issue to recognize the sensitivity. i know people like myself that have had problems and dealt with them and a blanket prohibition against having a gun is something you want to think about very carefully. >> host: but that isn't what most people are talking about to be that virginia tech when the brady center discovered
how can the nra in pos really convincingly regulations aimed at keeping people like criminals and drug addict from acquiring guns? there's nothing that has tried to support people like that the nra is the only one that says don't make new gun control measures, and forceful law that we have against criminals and that should be something we can agree on. >> host: part of what is needed to enforce those are maybe stronger definitions sometimes were stronger regulations but the list of...
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and that was a different nra. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of, i think, worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and -- but they became politically the leadership that approved the '68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others and eventually by charlton heston became a spokesman for that faction, and now we have wayne lapierre firmly in the saddle, and politically it's a very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. also been able to raise huge amounts of money and become maybe the most powerful lobby in washington. and it plays basically on the backlash, on people's fears of -- well, imcrime is rising and the police can't do anything about it, then how are we going to keep ourselves from being robbed? murdered? raped? and son on. we need firearms to defend ourselveses and the nra certainly has been playing on that line for many years. >> host: but as crime is rising in the '8s and early '9s, crack cocaine and the gangs and more sophisticated guns, congress acted again. really only the third time they acted to do a gun
and that was a different nra. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of, i think, worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and -- but they became politically the leadership that approved the '68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others and eventually by charlton heston became a spokesman for that faction, and now we have wayne lapierre firmly in the saddle, and politically it's a very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. also...
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>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the biggest single hole right now if you're a felon and you walk into a gun store and you try to buy a gun and they go, oh, you're a felon and we're going to turn you do, they let you walk out and they don't prosecute you. it's like bonnie and clyde. it like clyde goes in and tries to buy a gun. he goes back to bonnie and said i got bad news, they didn't sell me a gun. the good news is they let me go, they didn't do anything to me. they go about and commit their crime. >> is senator feinstein's bill to revive the assault weapon ban going to pass? >>
>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the...
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if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed away from it. the mere prospect of president obama's being elected caused a huge run on ammunition, police departments were almost running out of it. now many democrats think the situation is different because of newtown and the other mass shootings this year, so i guess we're going to find out whether past is prologue. things have -- things may have changed. we're going to have to see how much they have. >> senators kay bailey hutchison and mark warren yesterday segment nauling their willing tons talk about this, and most likely the conversation leading itself to
if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed...
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this is what the nra wants to do. given the history of there being armed -- all kinds of armed guards at schools where there were shootings, do you think it will really work? >> well, you know, when we call 911, we don't want to disarm security guard showing up to help us. now, there are many different things we can do. that perhaps is appropriate in some situations. i believe new york city schools, many of them, have security officers that are armed. that's not the whole picture. if we focus just on the firearm, we miss the opportunity to address the larger problems here with our mental health system, which is in shambles in this country, and what is really comes down to is money, why are we going to put our priorities, in the mill ear, overseas, or right here with our own people in america? >> thank you very much for joining us. i appreciate it. especially on this holiday. >> thank you. >> other headlines to tell you about. >>> we expect to fin out the official results of egypt's constitutional referendum vote. unof
this is what the nra wants to do. given the history of there being armed -- all kinds of armed guards at schools where there were shootings, do you think it will really work? >> well, you know, when we call 911, we don't want to disarm security guard showing up to help us. now, there are many different things we can do. that perhaps is appropriate in some situations. i believe new york city schools, many of them, have security officers that are armed. that's not the whole picture. if we...
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. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering up an array of ideas, including universal background checks and tighter control laws. and he is exploring a run for the u.s. senate in 2014. >>> former penn state defensive coordinator jerry sandusky, responded to an interview request with a pennsylvania newspaper with a letter from prison, written on a small scrap of paper. sandusky says he wants to talk to the citizens voice newspaper but told to keep quiet by his attorneys as they appeal his conviction for sexually abuses ten boys. he says he spends 23 hours a day in his cell at a supermax security prison. >>> the end of an era. "newsweek" released the cover of it
. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering...